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By THE IRRAWADDY Monday, July 19, 2010


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Kin Oung is the author of the book Who Killed Aung San? He is the son of Tun Hla Oung, who was the Deputy Inspector General of Police, CID Department, and who was credited with the rapid capture and arrest of U Saw and his men after the assassination of Gen Aung San, and the son-in-law of Justice Thaung Sein, who played a vital role in bringing the assassins to justice.

Kin Oung spoke to Kyaw Zwa Moe, managing editor of The Irrawaddy, just before 63rd Anniversary of Martyrs Day, which commemorates the anniversary of the assassination of nine heroes of Burma’s independence movement—including Aung San—on July 19, 1947, just six months before Burma regained its independence from Britain.

Aung San—the father of detained pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi—is considered the father of Burmese independence, and led the fight for colonial liberation from Britain, which had ruled Burma since 1885.

Question: Were the British thought to be involved in the assassination of Aung San?

Answer: Aung San wanted independence and wanted the Burmese to be wealthy. He also wanted the Burmese and ethnic nationals in hill areas to be united and friendly. Then some British companies got involved because it was important for them to stay on in Burma and for Burma not to gain its independence. Aung San's ideology was close to socialism and he gave some speeches about it and hinted that nationalization should take place for the sake of the Burmese people. But whether they [the British] had an intention to kill Gen. Aung San and his ministers is unclear.

Q: So Aung San could unite the whole country and seemed to be a left-wing leader who sympathized with socialism. Were these the two main factors that caused him to be assassinated? Were there other factors?

A: Among the British there were differing points of view. It's possible that some British companies financially supported the ambitious politicians who disliked Aung San. But British governments, first [Winston] Churchill's and then [Clement] Attlee's, were not able to provide such support. The government could not give openly, but the British companies could give clandestinely. They did provide financial support to U Saw [the rival of Aung San who plotted to kill him]. At that time, Maung Maung Gyi, the brother of U Saw was in London. U Saw would take as much as they were willing to give. And there was a black market after the war. At that time I was in Burma's navy and knew such things well. People tried to sell or trade everything they got—just like you see high-ranking officials of the current military government involved in the businesses of opium, jade and so on. In those days some smuggled in even small items such as flint. What I mean is people did business in whatever was accessible to them. As for British military officers, they had to send their weapons to Singapore because Burma was soon to be given independence. They also sold their machine guns, Tommy guns and other weapons. So U Saw bought them.

Q: Were Maj C.H.H Young, a British commander of No.1 BEME, and Maj Lance Dane, the core suppliers of weapons and ammunition? Some said Lance Dane was not a core supplier and U Saw got weapons from Young.

A: The police might have heard this from my father, who was deputy police commissioner at the time. But the military intelligence men detected these facts in many ways, and they became known by U Nu, U Kyaw Nyein and Aung San. They informed the British governor, but he did nothing. Many weapons had been lost.

Q: They informed the British governor after they received information that U Saw had obtained many weapons?

A: Yes, the governor was informed by my father’s department. They knew something would be happening due to the loss of weapons. At that time, U Nu and U Kyaw Nyein also received information that something was in the works.

Q: It was reported that Aung San was not actually assassinated by the weapons that Young supplied. Reports said other weapons were used to assassinate him and his colleagues.



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Dr.Myo.THI-HA Wrote:
29/07/2010
To Myanmar Patriots.

I agree with you on no(3) point.

As the US/EU sanctions do not work absolutely, consequencly to make big trouble for the ordinary people, we are very happy with the way of INDIA.

The result of EU/US sanctions can only make the trend that Myanmar is unlikely to continue to stay on the "dark side" under military boots.

The EU/US sanctions destroy our future hope of "Democracy".



Myanmar Patriots Wrote:
29/07/2010
Dear plan B,
We are researchers, with access to documents none of you have. You said: "While he destroyed Burma with his isolationist Burmese Way to Socialism.
Coddled by every western nations while similarly ruthlessness in holding on to power as the SPDC."
Are you suggesting that Shu Maung(so-called Ne Win)was head of the SPDC, SLORC renamed?
Our king HM King Schwebomin II perceived:
1)on March 2,1962 Burma would be on the road to ruin.
(2)SLORC purged the old thugs, lackeys of ShuMaung.
(3) Sen.Gen U Than Shwe is a gradualist reformer.
Most of the readers will find point (3)difficult to understand because they are only frogs in the well, with no real understanding of how the world works.
We are very happy with the way INDIA, (humiliated by the same coloniser)received Sen.Gen U ThanShwe.
Cheers to Ashin (Lord) Than Shwe.

Dr.Myo.THI-HA Wrote:
28/07/2010
Yes, thu ri ya burma. You are correct.
"U Kyaw Zaw must be really patriotic even though he is communist"
He is the only person to tell us the true history.

"Gen. Aung San replied to Attlee "...I'm very interested in socialism".
Yes, because...according to the reference from the UK said that if Gen Aung San could not be possible to reply the proper answer to Attlee who was tricking Gen Aung San at that moment.
Another source (UK) said that Attlee got the serious information (informed by U Kyaw Nyein) that Gen Aung San had a meeting with Thakhin Soe & Thankhin Than Tun in Myoma (now Dagon.2 SHS)to establish the "red; Communist" party. They agreed to call a "Communist party" 1st meeting but the arguments came out as some wanted to follow Russian, some India and China. Some wanted to go through a soft communism(later became Socialist, "Yebaw Phu & Yebaw war").
Later Gen Aung San moved a trend to Socialism.
So, former Gen Ne Win copied (created) a Burmese way of socialism.




thu ri ya burma Wrote:
27/07/2010
To Dr.Myo.THI-HA,
Why Gen. Aung San replied to Attlee "...I'm very interested in socialism" rather than "Yes, I'm communist"?
Why author Khin Oung mentioned "Communists started organizing the military personnel, but well-disciplined personnel could not be organized. Those personnel supported Aung San."?
Nowadays, why is the Burmese military making friends with communist China and N.Korea even though they don't like communists?

By the way, I learnt that Thakhin Than Tun's wife is a sister of Gen Aung San's wife, Daw Khin Kyi.
And also, I learnt that communist U Kyaw Zaw fought back Chinese invaders. So he must be really patriotic even though he is communist. Am I right?

plan B Wrote:
27/07/2010
Myanmar Patriots
The only worthy point you made accurately is Ne Win being wined and dined like a royalty in the court of St James.
While he destroyed Burma with his isolationist Burmese Way to Socialism.
Coddled by every western nations while similarly ruthlessness in holding on to power as SPDC.




Burmese Wrote:
24/07/2010
An article in Burmese(needs Zawgyi font)

http://www.mizzimaburmese.com/special/martyr-day/1424-2008-07-16-15-24-52.html

Myanmar Patriots Wrote:
24/07/2010
FOR GOODNESS SAKE!It was not British but English, repeat English sympathisers of the Karens who fought the Japanese.Here is absolute truth.There is a society called Royal Burma Society of Great Britian, founded by HRH Crown Prince Shwebomin of Burma and an English friend called Michael P Wright, B.Sc Hons in1993.RBS of GB held dinenr parties at Yadana Burmese restaurant in Lily Road,Fulham, London SW6.The owner#s father, U Ne Win (not ShuMaung) was with BBC.His Royal Highness was a guest at U NeWin#s retirement party at Yadana.Copies of ROYAL BURMA were given to the guests.In it there was a question: WHO KILLED AUNG SAN?Truth is AungSan is uncle of Shwebomin, whjo was born in U AungThan's house in Magwe.That newsletter 'Royal Burma'led to the BBC documentary by Fergal Keene.Also Max McGrath,Anglo´Burmese,(uncle Max to HRH)told HRH that U Saw could not have been the one who killed AungSan. He was framed.THERE IS MORE TO THIS STORY
Irrawaddy should not limit the characters at all.

plan B Wrote:
24/07/2010
secondhand witness
"The british had nothing to do with it"
Talk about "a revisionist".
Weren't the guns and ammo used obtained from HMS arsenal from the HMS control HMS know exactly were intended for.
Is this the kind of "Let us not blame" the co conspirators because they are white man, the ongoing attitude?
"Myanmar is full of rumours but there are still some first hand witnesses."
You and ShweBoMin II should get together more often and cheer each other on.
"Our Bogyoke Aung San was assassinated by Galone U Saw and his cohorts and the Britsh KNOWINGLY facilitated it Period!
The one who gave the guns to the assassin was sheltered by the Britsh law immediately.
Exactly just like the crime against our brothers will be sheltered by the ICC.
Things have not changed much since 1947.

Dr.Myo.THI-HA Wrote:
23/07/2010
To thu ri ya burma:

I have already replied to you.

Thakin Soe well known as "Alan Ni: red flag".
Thakhin Than Tun (later called bakapa)who was killed in Pegu Yoma (after failed discussion with former Gen Ne Win). Bakapa killed (burmese called "phyut htut thart"the son of Ludu U Hla & Daw Amhar.
Only Tha Khin soe is older than Gen Aung San.
Tha Khin Than than was same age as Gen Aung San.

The original place of Communist party: Myo Ma school.(Meeting held by Gen.Aung San, Thahin Soe, Bo Zay and 3 others)

You can ask/enquiry to former exile Brig.Gen Kyaw Zaw who fled from Gen Ne Win armed force(around 1980)to China.
He is still alive in China and he can reconfirm that who is the communist party founder? His mates were Gen Aung San, Brig Gen. Aung Gyi & Mg Mg, Gen. Ne Win, Thakhin Than Tun, Goshel, Bo Zay ya (grand father of actress Eidra Kyawzin) and etc....





thu ri ya burma Wrote:
22/07/2010
To Dr.Myaut.THI-HA,
Who are Thakhin Than Tun & Thakhin Soe? According to my knowledge, they are much more senior than Gen. Aung San. When they were doing communist activities, Gen. Aung San was just a student only. When Atlee asked him "Are you communist?" and Gen. Aung San replied ".....I'm very interested in socialism." You'd better check the history. Don't twist history.

Burmese Wrote:
21/07/2010
Dear Secondwitness

Please watch the documentary;

http://www.documentariestv.net/history/who-killed-aung-san-video_d88af4965.html

secondhand witness Wrote:
21/07/2010
One of the policeman involved in the investigation is still alive and aged 92. He had told Aung San that he needed security and Aung San thought he did not need it. He witnessed the bodies before they were moved and told me Aung San was shot while he was standing and fell face down on the table. He had gunshot wounds in a line straight down the middle of his body. Galone Saw U did it for personal reasons. The british had nothing to do with it. There is a lot of history lost because no one records these stories. Myanmar is full of rumours but there are still some first hand witnesses.

I am hoping to write down an account of this important part of Myanmar in the not too distant future.

Burmese Wrote:
21/07/2010
http://www.documentariestv.net/history/who-killed-aung-san-video_d88af4965.html

Saw Dennis Wrote:
21/07/2010
In 1947, the Chinese communists were poised to capture the whole of China. Soviet Union was about to possess nuclear bombs. The US pressured the British to give independence to its colonies ASAP, as it was the last chance for friendship with its former colonies. Aung San had demonstrably shown that he was the only leader with ability to reorganize Burma into a peaceful and prosperous country. In spite of warning from Churchill, Atlee government failed to thoroughly prepare Burma for independence and in spite of his brilliance, Aung San underestimated his rivals' craving for power and capability for violence. To the last minute, U Saw’s British lawyer said that the case was a frame-up. If U Saw had not killed Aung San, there were a score of others who would, as testified by the events going on up to this day.The generals will not return power to the people without enough force.The policy of appeasement,surrender and collaboration has made the dictators more repressive and power mad.

Burmese Wrote:
20/07/2010
There was a TV Documentary "Who killed Aung San" shown on ITV in UK in ?1997, repeated next year but no more since then.

I remembered the comment near the end saying not all the truth is revealed (even after 50 years according to the freedom of information act) due to "sensitivity".

However, they admitted that British military intelligence service was involved.

George Than Setkyar Heine Wrote:
20/07/2010
Were the British thought to be involved in the assassination of Aung San?
British companies wanted to stay on in Burma and for Burma not to gain its independence. Aung San's ideology was close to socialism and hinted that nationalization should take place for the sake of the Burmese people. But whether they [the British] had an intention to kill Gen. Aung San and his ministers is unclear.
Some British companies did provide financial support to U Saw [the rival of Aung San who plotted to kill him].
The British military officers also sold their machine guns, Tommy guns and other weapons. So U Saw bought them.
They informed the British governor, but he did nothing. There were four assassins. Three of them used Tommy guns. The youngest assassin, Khin Maung Yin, used a Sten gun.
They found that the weapons had come from the British army, and they found out who sold them. Young was arrested. But later, the suppliers were secretly freed.
The answer is there!
The British did it of course.

Dr.Myo.THI-HA Wrote:
20/07/2010
To thu ri ya burma:

Do not forget that Gen Aung San was a "military personnel". Yes, he was a Burma Communist party founder.

If you want to know details,
you can ask ex-Brig Gen. Kyaw Zaw who is still alive in China (Bakapa CEC). Or his son U Aung Kyaw Zaw (military analysis, author in The Irrawaddy magazine)




thu ri ya burma Wrote:
20/07/2010
DR.MYAUT-THIHA,
You said that Gen. Aung San was the founder of communist.
Now, author Khin Oung mentioned "Communists started organizing the military personnel, but well-disciplined personnel could not be organized. Those personnel supported Aung San. Karen and Kachin Army personnel also supported Aung San."
So, DR.MYAUT-THIHA, your accusation to Gen Aung San is baseless. Got it!

Kyi May Kaung Wrote:
19/07/2010
Fascinating.

I don't know much about Aung San's assassination as I was a child and my family was in UK, but a student of my father's was in town on the morning of the mass assassination, described the confusion and sadness on the streets and hurried to the Secretariat in time to see and hear the bodies being dragged down the stairs.

A nephew of my father's was in the Police and later described the British leading a clandestine entry of U Saw's house to look for incriminating evidence.

If I remember right the weapons were recovered in Inya Lake.

Present Mongpawn sawbwa Sao Hso Hom also gave a good interview to RFA about day his father also killed.

This interview is good -- much clearer than the book which is not that well written, in my opinion, and hard to read and understand.

Kyi May Kaung (Ph.D.)

Kunipipi KT Wrote:
19/07/2010
Bravo ! Warramanga Warrior

Glad to see that my old Navy Friend and a devoted Patriot still has a sharp memory and strong beliefs.

Wish we had more like him.
My best compliments,

Kunipipi

Dr.Myo.THI-HA Wrote:
19/07/2010
According to my knowledge, Gen Aung San was killed by:

(1) Physically organized by British.

(2) Motivative caused by former Gen Ne Win.

(3) Action taken by Ghalon U Saw & his party.

(4) U Nu and U Kyaw Nyein closed their eyes, ears and mouths since the earlier information received.

timothy Wrote:
19/07/2010
We all give our respect to fallen leaders of Burma, founding fathers of Burma. Today it had been 63 years and we could not forget the black July of Burma. The book is very important information for history. The history should be accessible to people especially those in Burma to know the truth about Burma. Can they access electronically? Could you possibly make it possible for people in Burma? If any idea? Freedom of information act?